@LastSunset Not sure how Fry is a Ponzi, literally doesn’t fit the definition of one

Might need to do some reading on what a Ponzi is instead of throwing around that word 😉

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

@iotanine they have literally 0 data sales, only fake ones, so all the funds come from node sales and other garbage from their site. Unless you're from the team and feel the obligation to defend their ponzi, don't lie to yourself. They threw the 2.0 bs on OGs just so they don't pay anymore (they were out of funds until new bs hardware was released). So yeah, pretty much a ponzi.

@LastSunset I get that you’re skeptical, but just want to clear a few things up:

• We’ve never claimed that we’ve sold data. We’ve said repeatedly, and publicly, that no data sales have happened yet. What is happening is active talks with buyers, and we’re working with a top AI agent that helps other DePIN projects broker data. We're laying the groundwork, not faking it.

• Node and hardware sales aren’t the end goal. They’ve helped bootstrap the network, but the entire reason for Fry 2.0 and segment tokens is to transition away from that model and move toward rewards based on real-world utility.

• We didn’t “throw 2.0” at OGs to stop paying them. That’s exactly why $tFRY (FIP-008) exists—to make sure everyone running an unmonetized miner still earns something that will convert 1:1 into their segment token once that network is monetized.

Calling it a Ponzi just doesn’t reflect what’s actually happening. If you’ve got real questions or want to dig deeper, I’m happy to talk specifics, but blanket accusations won’t get

us anywhere

I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have about Fry :)

@iotanine_FryNetworks so basically we buy the miner from you, let's say the weather miner in my case, then you still throw the 2.0 bs our way, I never got anywhere close to getting my initial investment back, perhaps 15%, then you expect us to hope and prey for some data sales for our miner segment? 🤣🤣🤣

It's so easy for you to say, but you should have found a way for people who supported you from the start to AT LEAST get their investment back and then decide if they wanna continue with this bs or not. Coming out of nowhere with a 2.0 “new” tokenomics that basically renders our devices to only collect dust, because that's the reality, it's outrageous.

No real serious project does that, brings down the very people that built this. You have no valid arguments here, man. That's why most of your OGs are long gone and feel a stomach ache each time they think of Fry. The community remembers. Don't try to fool us. Crypto is the most hard core community possible, you can't come around and mess with the ones that build your bs.

@LastSunset I hear the frustration, and I’m not here to dismiss it, you’ve been around from the start, and your support helped build the foundation, so that matters.

The move to Fry 2.0 wasn’t made lightly, and I totally understand how it felt, but the old model wasn’t sustainable. Rewards weren’t tied to real utility, and as a result, the value drifted. We could’ve ignored it and let everything slowly collapse, or try to fix it, and that’s what Fry 2.0 is. It’s not about abandoning OGs, it’s about giving the system a real chance to survive long term.

To help people during this shift, FIP-008 introduced $tFRY so that miners on unmonetized networks, like weather, still earn something now that will convert 1:1 into their segment token once monetized. It's not instant ROI, but it’s a path forward.

We’ve never hidden behind fake promises. We’ve been transparent that no data sales have happened yet, but we’re in talks, and working with a top AI agent used by other DePIN projects to help make that happen. Weather data does have value, it just takes time to build the relationships and trust to sell it properly.

You’re right that the crypto community doesn’t forget, and we don’t expect them to. But we’re still here, we’re still shipping, and we haven’t given up on the people who helped get this started. If you ever want to talk about how to improve things, my door’s always open :)

@iotanine_FryNetworks PS: Saying I have no proof makes me laugh so hard. The most recent backlash was the Helium Deploy survey on Discord where they asked if Fry is a scam and if they should sell your nonsense hardware on their reputable website, and the end result is clear: they don't mess with frauds. The OGs were there to speak the truth and the result is clear. Until then, go have some fun on this forum trying to fight OGs while doing your best to enrich the situation so badly, a newbie won't even understand what happen. Cheers.

@LastSunset I get it, it’s a heated topic, and I’m not here to argue for the sake of arguing. But just to clarify a few things:

Yes, we saw the Helium Deploy survey. And while we respect their community, a lot of the votes came from people who were previously banned from our server due to repeated rule violations, not for sharing feedback, but for spamming, harassment, and breaking clear community guidelines. Some of those same individuals encouraged others to vote negatively as a form of retaliation. That context matters.

Still, we’re not brushing off the fact that people are upset. We know we made big changes, and it hit some early supporters hard. That’s exactly why things like $tFRY via FIP-008 exist, to give unmonetized miners a path forward and ensure they're not left behind. It’s not perfect, but we’re actively improving and listening.

At the end of the day, people are free to support what they believe in, and we’re going to keep building for the ones who still see value in where this is heading. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and I wish you well! :)

@bob_carsyn I have one plug, you get a bonus for 3 plugs do I have 2 more arriving today so I get the 3 device bonus. Just got my plug on Friday, so can't say much about earnings, this is a brand new project the sooner you get involved the better it is. The plugs work fine, unlike starpower and Waba these smart plugs are compatible with Alexa and I believe Google home. Got my bonus for 24 hours online and the next after 3 plugs is 7 days online.

@catman1959 i am running 4 Shelly plugs on Combinder, rewards are decent. You basically get 1 $Bind a day/device. But you hit milestones along the way that give you a nice Jump. I think after about 6 weeks i recieved 750 $Bind bonus for milestones hit. You can get more through referrals. And I do not do it but i believe you can receive $Bind through their telegram by showing proof of you making quality posts about the project. It has nothing to do with how much power goes through the device. Overall pretty happy with the project. I mean you plug it in and let it run. I forget to check it half the time. But accumulation has been pretty good, no complaints here