@mleixercu Are you still feeling good about the purchase?
What other projects are you running?
@mleixercu Are you still feeling good about the purchase?
What other projects are you running?
I would say that now everyone will try to copy DeEEP Network, which is fine, everyone has their own right, the market is open to everyone, just let's not forget that everything from NerdNode is moving to DeEEP and soon.
I was trying to read up on it some more but what’s this about it being an ISP? How do you get it to run without some kind of connection already established? I could easily FOMO in but I need more info.
@PuNkYsHuNgRy There's no solid info about this yet. What I heard is that black box owners can connect external antennas (available later at additional cost) to the black box and share their existing internet connection with others.
But what the hell can you actually do with it? Doesn’t seem like there is much info. They don’t tell you the 10 projects so they could all be crap. Too pricey with little info.
@PuNkYsHuNgRy
This is the latest info about it
I. Core Concept & Hardware
What is the Black Box?,
A multi-functional crypto-router merging digital infrastructure (Wi-Fi, compute, storage, networking) into one device.,
Origin: Evolved from Dawn’s need for a decentralized broadband node → became a "nexus point" for DePIN protocols.,
Vision: Empower households to build the future internet ("one box that does it all").,
Key Hardware Features:,
Upgradable Wi-Fi 6/7/8 cards (first future-proof router).,
Dual-mode operation:,
Local sharing: Neighbors share one internet bill (e.g., 4 users save ~$128/month each).
Long-range: Outdoor antennas extend coverage up to 6–7 miles ($400 antenna covers thousands of homes).
GPU slots: Larger GPUs support more protocols (RTX 3060 to 4090 options).,
Power: ~300-400W (~$35/month at 12¢/kWh).,
II. Software, Use Cases & Market Disruption
Consumer Experience:,
App Store Model: Mobile app toggles DePIN protocols (Helium, Filecoin, etc.) with one click.,
Dawn Explorer: Transparent marketplace for bandwidth pricing/performance comparison.,
2.User Benefits:
Become a micro-ISP: Set custom rates, share bandwidth, earn rewards.,
Cost Savings: Split bills with neighbors (VLAN-segmented networks).,
Bandwidth Agnostic: Works with any source (Comcast, Starlink, fiber, etc.).,
Market Disruption:,
Targets ISP monopolies: Creates infinite local ISPs → drives competition.,
Solves "internet deserts": Bridges coverage gaps (e.g., low-income areas pay more for worse service).,
Peer-to-Peer Protocol: Dawn automates delivery/billing; users control pricing.,
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III. Ecosystem Strategy & Future Roadmap
DePIN Integration:,
10+ partners announce (e.g., Helium Mobile for PassPoint roaming in US/Mexico).,
"Costco for DePIN": One device replaces fragmented hardware → cheaper/more efficient.,
Developer-friendly: Proxmox virtualization supports custom VMs (firewalls, Windows, gaming).,
Early Adopter Perks:,
Founders Edition: Exclusive NFTs, swag, and "mystery rewards" for first buyers.,
Order: shop.dawninternet.com (accepts SOL + fiat).,
2025 Roadmap:,
Global Explorer: Map optimal node locations + bounty programs for deployment.,
Data Center Partnerships: Urban users tap into cheap wholesale bandwidth.,
Web2 Expansion: Position DePIN as competitive alternative to AWS/cloud providers.,
Key Quotes
Neil (CEO): "We’re turning users into micro-ISPs. The Black Box is the nexus point for the internet’s future – where households power the ecosystem.",
James (CPO): "Our app store abstracts complexity. Whether you’re a grandma or crypto-native, you can run DePIN protocols in one tap.",
Why This Matters
For Users: Monetize idle resources (bandwidth/compute) while upgrading home Wi-Fi.,
For DePIN: Solves the "hardware fragmentation" problem → accelerates adoption.,
For Web3: Bridges crypto and real-world utility (affordable internet, decentralized infra).,
TLDR: The Black Box is a Wi-Fi router on steroids – share bandwidth with neighbors, run 10+ DePIN protocols, earn rewards, and disrupt ISP monopolies. Think "Starlink for peer-to-peer internet" meets "Apple’s ecosystem simplicity."
Looks very interesting! We might look into carrying it at Helium Deploy.
So this is interesting. https://shop.dawninternet.com/ https://x.com/_omolawni_/status/1945211334573830243
They claim they will have 10 DePIN running at launch
A software router, self-hosted server, and AI edge node for high-speed networking for the home and the Internet of the future.
DPDK + VPP based router with 10Gbps real double-NAT performance
64GB RAM
240GB NVMe + 1TB SSD + 7 additional storage bay slots
Intel Core i5 14400 - 10 core processor
6-20GB VRAM GPU options
Starts at $1,500 and goes up to $2,600
I bought a 20GPU one on the first day of release.