@DePIN_Pete Here you will find the answer to your question as well as other questions.

https://grass-foundation.gitbook.io/grass-docs/introduction/general-grass-faq

@bob_carsyn There are no other notifications at the moment, I'm on the waiting list. I'll get a notification and I'm waiting for it impatiently. It's being sent in batches. I'll let you know in the mail when I'm notified, but it all depends on whether the price will be acceptable for purchase.

@chinacow I hope the price is <$150, anything over that is too much for me. If the price is higher, I'll stick with my computer and mobile phone and redirect my funds to other projects.

@dm69 My guess will be $299.

@Matyi47 I thought it was acceptable up to $200, but now I think there's no point in paying more than $100-150, that's the price ceiling I'm willing to accept, anything above that is unacceptable, it doesn't have any sophisticated components to be above this price.

@PacketThrower If you registered on time, you will receive an email notification.

For now, the most you can get via mobile phone is 3X more, but with hardware, according to their claims, you can get much more and it is a great investment in my opinion because it is online 24/7

@dm69 thank you! I did get the email as well. I have quite a few devices harvesting tokens, 3 phones, some Windows docker containers and Linux ones. I'm more so wondering if the Multiplayer will be higher than my windows or Linux containers which already run 24/7.

@Carnbrea Unless the amount of data transferred is outrageous, the odds of an ISP flagging you in the U.S. is virtually nil. Been running several bandwith apps and extensions for a long time but they total less that streaming a couple of movies a month. Not sure about you in the UK.

@Carnbrea If the Grass device supports VPN in the future, it could potentially hide its activity from your ISP, since all traffic would be encrypted and appear as regular VPN usage. In that case, the ISP wouldn’t easily detect bandwidth sharing. However, we still need official confirmation on whether Grass will allow VPN usage.

@Carnbrea Try these 5 applications for desktop and laptop. If you don't get a warning about exceeding traffic, then you can certainly use Grass hardware, it all depends on your bandwidth. You also get a bonus when you register.

https://r.honeygain.me/DM69B34216

https://link.uprock.com/i/13c88be3

https://app.getgrass.io/register?referralCode=EG1cbdhuw10cAMf

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https://pawns.app/?r=4485922

@dm69 I could run the application on an always-on laptop left in a corner at home. Would this have the same functionality as the device?

@dm69 When I run Tailscale my Starlink app flags up that I’m using a VPN, even though I’m only using it to mesh a few of my own devices and not as an exit node.

@Carnbrea I also use Tailscale to access project nodes I have on other ISPs/networks. VPNs (which Tailscale IS) introduce a hop and bandwidth reduction (bottleneck) in your connection which users can mistake for less speed from their ISP, such as Starlink, than they’re expecting or paying for. DePIN projects DO NOT like VPNs as they reduce speed and decentralization in the networks they’re trying to build.

@CGH_Crypto I don’t think Grass will be a grower for me ( 😂 sorry)

@Xrave The Grass hardware device (Grasshopper) is a plug-and-play node that connects to your home router and passively collects internet metadata to support AI model training—while preserving user privacy. It helps build an open, decentralized dataset by analyzing network activity anonymously. In return, users earn points (and eventually tokens). The device is energy-efficient, requires no technical setup, and runs continuously with minimal maintenance.

https://www.grass.io/learn/meet-grasshopper

@dm69 yea, that doesn’t really say what it’s doing

@Xrave reading between the lines, they sell your internet connection (residential IP) to verified companies so they can scrape data.

@william Better put it behind a router with VPN enabled then.

@william any details on the verified companies?

@psx I believe they detect VPN and you wouldn’t be eligible to earn. They must need residential IPs

@william Ah, I see.

@Xrave I have the same concern … if it doesn’t provide value (i.e. no demands), there would be no economical reasons to supply anything.

AI training is a good promise, but I wonder if the team has got any ML backgrounds.

@arbawk Let is know what the price and multiplier is as soon as you find out! I may want a few!

@arbawk And that seems to be coming soon, since the 9th epoch is ending in a few days, and on average it is from 12-15

@CoinChaser

We don't know the price yet

@CoinChaser It will be known when the price of the hardware and when the points are converted into grass tokens, I believe that the price should not be higher than $200, anything over that is too much. Until then, just a guess as to how long the payback period (ROI) is.

@dm69 it’s essentially a raspberry pi, shouldn’t be too expensive!

@william Oh you can never say, we have ESP32s selling for $140 these days…

@psx #EEEEE