@arbawk Too bad that Hotspot1 can't be added to my personal miner list yet. I'll check again soon.

@Intratec That will come soon enough too

@arbawk Any insides of when this will be possible yet?

@BogeysAndBlockchains About to install one. I’ll let you know.

@Intratec I’ve been running mine for around 3 weeks. No rewards yet

@BogeysAndBlockchains Not yet. I got a device up and running. Supposedly, I’m already earning but I won’t get my payout until $KONE goes live. At least that’s how I understand it from their Discord.

@Chuck Good to know. I’ve asked on Discord a few times and do not get an adequate reply. My concern is that all of my traffic is showing as “Non-Commercial Usage” but it’s all Karrier One traffic as the personal access point is off

@BogeysAndBlockchains

nothing on my end, Toronto area, Canada. I have an uptime of 33days. I believe most people are not seeing traffic through there devices

@CryptoJar What does your non-commercial usage look like?

@BogeysAndBlockchains There’s no chart or data for non-commercial on the dashboard

@CryptoJar Interesting. I’m the opposite

@BogeysAndBlockchains im going to ask the team about that

@BogeysAndBlockchains I suppose this depends on what you entered in the 'Venue Type' field during installation: on my installation today I entered 'Residential', which is probably why only 'Non-Commercial Usage' is listed for me now.

@Intratec I did enter residential as it is installed in my home but I get a lot of traffic from people walking by and an open air event venue across the street

@Intratec OMG That was it! I changed it to a concert venue and now it’s listed as commercial data 🤦🏻‍♂️

@BogeysAndBlockchains Good to know that it can still be adjusted after installation, just noticed the Venue ‘change option’', thanks. Indeed nice traffic ! Btw, how much time did it take for your hotspot to onboard after registration? 19 hours after registering, mine is still inactive.

@Intratec You mean this? It was active from the start

@BogeysAndBlockchains Administrator on the Discord Channel Karrier One yesterday told me that onboarding typically takes about 24hrs. So maybe you were just lucky, or maybe I’m just unlucky.

@Intratec when I set mine up it said that it couldn’t verify the mac address and then gave me the option to verify manually which is what I did. I saw the video of JD setting one up at Helium Deploy and he had the same thing. I wonder if that’s the difference?

@BogeysAndBlockchains That's why I tried to reopen my ticket from yesterday in the Discord Channel a few hours ago, but I'm still waiting for a moderator to approve it.

@BogeysAndBlockchains
My Hotspot1 has been inactive since its first connection for almost two days now. I just found out my request to reopen my ticket about this issue in the Discord Channel Karrier One had disappeared (expired or even rejected). I received a warning for the new ticket I created because of ‘Duplicated text’, wrongly as only the problem described was the same but text was quite different. No idea how to get my hotspot active.

@Intratec Two days ago Administrator asked me to check if miner was connected to the correct port and if a correct DHCP address had been assigned. I haven't heard anything since, while miner is inactive now for a week. It appears the miner is probably just defective. I will contact HeliumDeploy for a replacement.

@Intratec Ugh, sorry

@BogeysAndBlockchains I just connected the miner at the office: it works just fine. I'm really puzzled now. At least I don’t have to return it to HeliumDeploy.

@Intratec Is it your internet connection at home? I assume you plugged into the same port on the Karrier One at the office as you did at home? If so, maybe it was just the long power cycle that did it?

@BogeysAndBlockchains That’s right, it could very well have been the long power cycle. Reason enough to try it again soon at home, near a large shopping center and plenty of restaurants.

@CryptoJar Still no visible traffic ?

@Intratec still nothing

@CryptoJar My uptime is now over 7 hours, but I still haven't had any visible traffic also. Have you any idea yet why for example @BogeysAndBlockchains , on the other hand, has visible traffic indeed ?

@Intratec I’d try pointing something on your network to it (use the hotspot) and see if it tracks usage; just as an experiment

@BogeysAndBlockchains Great idea, but as of this morning, my hotspot is no longer linked to my account. It says "No Wi-Fi Hotspots Found." Reactivating the hotspot with the same data keeps giving the same error message. Just created a ticket in Discord.

@Intratec Best of luck. Remember, do not use the reset button on the unit. That wipes out the Karrier One setup. I’d let Helium Deploy take it from here

@BogeysAndBlockchains Wise words from an undoubtedly wise man :) Thanks for the advice.

@Intratec Well I just checked mine and it’s dead too. I went in and tried re-registering it and while it finds my location it just says no hotspot found. Maybe a system wide thing? Possibly making it so we actually earn some reward for serving data? So far, it’s a pretty jenky project.

@Intratec

@BogeysAndBlockchains I did the same, and still got the message about no hotspot. Just reported about the other users with the same issue in my ticket at Discord.

@BogeysAndBlockchains Thanks for the warning.

@BogeysAndBlockchains Just checked, hotspot is ‘back on track’. As you already mentioned on Discord I see :)

@Intratec my K1 just arrived. I did provide the address during setup. I have the unit at another location to test before I make the trip and it hasn’t connected to the portal yet. All three lights are green, configurations aren’t pushing down be no last communication date and time. I will take the unit to its final destination tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes.

@PacketThrower Hopefully everything goes well !

@Intratec Now if they can fix this part it may be a good project

@BogeysAndBlockchains That would be great.

@Intratec so far so good, the K1 unit is online. It’s providing a Karrier One ssid and my wife’s business as an SSID. I’ll see if the data I used is shown on the portal tomorrow.

Does it matter for earnings if the end users are on either SSID?

@PacketThrower No earnings yet (I just saw something about earnings starting at TGE) but as I understand it, and I could be wrong, it’s only the Karrier One traffic that generates rewards. The hotspot is just a value add for the commercial installs, I believe but I could be wrong. The info is clear as mud

@BogeysAndBlockchains I would have to agree with you only on Karrier One traffic generating rewards. I believe. I hooked onto my custom SSID and downloaded about 3GBs of things, and only .008 GB was tracked. I believe that Data was before I created the custom SSID and was on the ‘Edgexxx’ SSID. Time will tell.

My fiancée has AT&T so I’m curious if she will hook onto the Karrier One SSID without issue. I have US Mobile using Dark Start which is AT&T behind the scenes. My phone with US Mobile was not connecting to Karrier One, it prompted for 802.1x authentication. I’ll have her test this out.

@PacketThrower this is 100% Karrier One (AT&T) traffic. I don’t have the hotspot on so this is all from random cell phones

@BogeysAndBlockchains

@BogeysAndBlockchains so to confirm, this is an ATT or whatever other carrier walks into your shop and auto connects to the unit? If so that is slick..

I have had a Helium hotspot in the same building and the only person that connects is me, if Att was an accepted carrier there I would be rolling in the data rewards.

@BogeysAndBlockchains well this is a darn good sign. Thankfully the photography studio that the k1 is in butts up against a restaurant. There are people hooking on to it automatically, that's exciting.

@PacketThrower perfect! Yep, it’s working as designed from what I understand

@BogeysAndBlockchains Just to be sure, I asked a member of the Staff team the following question in Discord:

[I would like to test the usage in my dashboard. You suggest using Wi-Fi to see the usage reflected on the dashboard. However, I found this in the HOTSPOT1 Documentation : "No Disruption to Existing WiFi Reassure property owners that HOTSPOT1 won't interfere with their existing guest WiFi. The system handles carrier offload traffic only."

So this is saying that the hotspot doesn't handle WiFi traffic at all, only carrier offload traffic. Does this mean that the only way to test the hotspot would be by using a mobile phone actually connected by 4G/5G at that moment ?]

Answer :

[You're right to flag that line, it's reassuring property owners that HOTSPOT1 won’t disrupt their existing guest Wi-Fi (meaning it won’t create interference). But the device does actively provide connectivity by offloading cellular traffic onto its Wi-Fi interface, that’s exactly how it earns rewards. In other words, testing via a mobile device connected with cellular while within Wi-Fi range is the correct way to see your dashboard reflect usage]

Unfortunately, the hotspot hasn't captured my 4G ‘test’ traffic yet, and certainly not any third-party traffic. Maybe it has something to do with my Dutch Telecom Provider : Ben.nl on the Odido network. In short, the exact operation of the hotspot is still not completely clear to me. So still quite a bit of homework to do.

@Intratec I know in the US they have a deal with AT&T so that is likely why I see as much traffic as I do. Other carriers are on the Karrier One network as well and those phones will connect automatically as well. I’d check to see who Karrier One has deals with in your country to get a feel for how much traffic you may see (how popular that carrier is, etc)

@BogeysAndBlockchains I followed your advice and submitted the matter to Karrier One. Currently, no agreements appear to have been made with network providers in the Netherlands, but it seems they're working on rolling out other solutions that allow users to offload bandwidth. We'll just have to wait and see.