I ordered my device in march and still not received it due to the redesign wing it’s did but regardless I’m still 100% on board with the project. I’m an aircraft mechanic and I live about 20 miles away from the main airport and several smaller single engine airports so I’m excited to see what happens when I finally receive/get online.
Im involved but still interested to see how they are going to be unique compared to the rest of the market.
My work involves an Aviation division (Approx. 35-40 mix of Rotary and Fixed Wing) and the Ops Team currently use FR24 (Paid Sub) for Aircraft tracking. As far as I know, it meets all of their requirements. Potentially a combination of Weather data like WXM would be helpful as we usually have a separate screen with Windy data displayed.
Potentially some opportunities to provide an API for Flight Planning software and applications used on Electronic Flight Bags but would need to again have something unique compared to the current players.
So if I get it… your pointing out that you don’t feel like the Wingbits network is unique?
From a business point of view, what makes me take Wingbits to my Ops Team and say, look at this, its so much better than FR24 (or other competitors) because of this/these unique reasons…
Yea I mean in theory because of the crypto incentive Wingbits should get more coverage then FR24 in areas that it doesn’t cover like Africa, the Amazon or parts of South America. Also FR24 struggles with drones, helicopters and light aircraft. So maybe the bet is that with the emergence of flying taxis coming and drones coming in the next few years Wingbits could win that market?
@forkus I’m a private pilot and have followed this tech casually for years before Wingbits lauched, though not as deeply as you based on your background.
I’ve also been skeptical because this same data is gathered so thoroughly from hobbyists in pre-existing projects. I’m left asking “what can differentiate Wingbits data?” And if that can be answered, “How much could Wingbits data be worth?”
All that said I have a 310 dual miner on top of my hangar’s roof and, until I smashed the cable in my hydraulic hangar door last week, it was doing great on both GEODNET (well over 99%….. airfields have incredible lines of sight) and Wingbits.
@FreeShkreli I have a clear Northeast sky view and there are two small airports in this same corridor to the north. I’m hoping my deployment gets enough air travel to earn when it comes in a few weeks. My Geodnet triple band is running at 99% so I have no obstructions. I think a metro with alot of airtraffic is better than my remote location. But we will see.
@dbome GEODNET triple band with 99%+ and getting the first NFT in the hex is awesome! And with Wingbits earnings that project to me is more of a “cool dashboard, tokens might be worth little but still cool” so my location at a busy flight training GA airport with a lot of commercial traffic coming off the Atlantic on approach into Orlando made my Wingbits appear to be one of the more active ones in my metro… at least before I screwed up the cable lol
I believe Wingbits takes into account comparative performance with units in nearby hexes but I’d need to look that up to refresh myself.
Fck any project that only allows 1 participant/Hex
It’s pretty strict for sure… Especially with such big hexes. But don’t you think it incentivises the right deployments and actually builds a better network this way?
it’s arbitrary gatekeeping
I’m not sure it’s arbitrary… I think it’s really to avoid diluting token distribution to useless deployments
the Antenna covers a 250 mile radius
meaning there’s already a ton of “useless deployments” im bitter I didn’t get my Hex have fun excluding people ✌🏻
and there’s already several per 250 miles?
@plantsurfing It’s not aribitrary. It’s to protect earnings dilution (meaning YOU, the miner) since one install per hex in each project is more than enough data to provide a marketable data product.
Bro whatever read my last post… why stop at 1 per Hex? Why not just make it regional since 1 install is more than enough?
@plantsurfing At a glance they seem to have enough reduncancy to have a reliable network, yet not the problem of over-redundancy that would make deployer rewards per location one day fall to Helium IOT tier crap where only a hobbyist would want to fill in gaps because a business person sees it as not worth using 10 minutes of mental energy on making 20 cents a day vs 5 cents.
lol okay thanks for sharing your opinion
I was able to sell it on ebay and get my money back plus a couple bucks more. Still sad I could not deploy.
Still that doesn’t look like a too bad outcome!
I got my device today, which is both exciting and disappointing. I made the mistake of not reading the fine print, which was actually not that fine. My location while from a map perspective is good, has a lot of tree coverage. Feedback I am getting is it’s not worth deploying or know it may not ever ROI. Lesson learned.
Could you have figured that out before making the purchase?
I definitely could of and should of. Just rushed into it, similar to entropy got FOMO. I need to calm the F’ down.
Hahaha sometimes it pays to be very early tho so I don’t really blame you!
Is there some re-sale value? Or you’d still rather have it deployed than try just sending to someone else?
Mount it on a pole. The Wingbit part of the project doesn’t care about the trees. Geodnet does require a clear view of the sky and raising it up even slightly improves performance. One of the best things about the dashboard is how quickly it responds. Test it out in varoius spots on your location to maximize the satellite connections. Both are great projects
So you’d recommend the WB200 instead of the MGW310 in the case where you don’t have clear sky?
@bob_carsyn Yeah that’s something I realized after I got my first few last month. I now have a newfound hatred for [certain] trees.
I’d be happy to buy it from you at cost + shipping + hassle.
Would like to know how much Wingbits is expected to earn a month.
Right now, no one really knows… it’s very hard to tell but when we asked the community to rank their top projects Wingbits was 3rd place.
I believe the main benefit to Wingbits is location-verified data. Currently with flightradar24 people can spoof the data, or so I’ve been told. Having the stations combined with Geodnet for RTK positioning + flight validation using Wingbits’ satellite adds validity to the data quality.
Now the question remains if that is worth it to people who get this data and if they will pay for it and how much…
Nice well said… I’m now a little more convinced haha!
I think the team is super strong, they raised a good amount of money, the community is very strong as well. I think they have the right ingredients to take it pretty far and I’m not too worried about the “information” already existing… If anything that validates the that the problem exist and that a possible really strong solution will be used.
Wingbits is solving a real problem, there’s a lack of reliable, decentralized flight data. If they pull it off, it's a big win for aviation tracking.
The info is out there already for free. But I do hear rumours that there are big contracts about to be signed. Wingbits also seems to have the ability to get more data than the free guys out there, since theres incentives for people to setup machines. There are also special promotions going on where people in very high demand areas can even get units for free. So Wingbits is taking steps to get good coverage. It sounds like there is demand side for this data. But only time will tell.
@JD Commercial aviation does not get the data for free. They have to pay for it. Large market. And Liability. The data has to be consistent with no downtime. This is critical data used for safety. Spidertrax had a device using GPS inside aircraft to track individual and fleet aircraft over 15 years ago. They were depreciated by ADS-B but that data is a pay for service to get aircraft data for fleets. The data needs to be packaged and that’s the asset that companies pay for. Depin is allowing individuals to take part in what used to be Commercial or big investor only projects. Many projects may be a flop but Aviation, Geographic location and weather are critical projects that have very valid use cases. Wings wants to get low level data that Radar can’t provide Below 300 Feet. That means many local stations. Your wings antenna does not see the ground based signals after 3-5 miles. This is to cover future drones and low flying commercial aviation. That’s a huge future market. Drones will also have a very weak antenna signal for positioning
I have heard some skepticism on this project around the idea that the information is already available. I do belive that the team has a plan to do it better with data above and beyond what is currently available. I would like to hear opinions of this group. Disclaimer - I have a 310 miner being delivered this week, so a bit biased.
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I have two Geodnet’s running, and do not want to purchase the dual miner. With that being said has anyone mounted wingbits directly next to Geodnet? Are there any issues with that, does anyone foresee any problems?