@mwaslam Not only very expensive but very hard to manage.

@mwaslam definitely expensive, but it’s actually one of the shortest ROIs for a depin device, assuming you drive enough to make it worth it.

With freshness now enables the LC is earning around 13 points per km, assume $0.01 token price, this gives about 20k km to break even.

If you are a 1000km per week driver then it’s only a 20 week ROI

@Lombo22 you can get an additional mounting base and cable assembly so all you have to do is unlatch the lidar portion of the LC and then snap it into the base on the other vehicle. Makes it much easier to manage with two vehicles.

@patrick.sims58+a990caa5 the LC rewards different depending on speed and driving rural vs urban environments, so it’s hard to predict.

But you can assume 13 points per km for earnings, after freshness is now in effect.

So $2600 (after shipping) and 13 points per km, assuming $0.01 per token, means you need to map 20k km to break even, assuming no airdrop.

However the more LCs get into the wild, the more impacted freshness will become, and earnings will drop. Also Rovr has a fixed weekly emission for contributors; today we aren’t hitting that cap, but as more LCs get out there we will eventually, and at that point all earnings globally for that week get amoritzed to the emissions cap, which results in lowered rewards.

+annual halvings

All of that said, the LC is a great device to use and does have a nice ROI, but it assumes you drive enough to make it worth it.

@Xrave I think I’ll try, the milage I drive city wide weekly is above average and as you said should be very rewarding now i’m updating over 10 GB weekly of information to the Bee device with another company so I’m sure this is going to be very rewarding

@Xinran_ROVR yes I have a question. I do not have a Mac device at home. All I have are iPads am I able to download that information at night at home with my Wi-Fi using my iPad Pro?

@patrick.sims58+a990caa5 they have a MacOS app for LC uploads, but not iOS

@Xrave

• Is ROVR planning an iOS or browser-based upload tool in the future.

• Explore if using a cloud-based macOS service (like MacStadium or MacInCloud) would work for running the app remotely.

@patrick.sims58+a990caa5 they originally had one but it wasn’t working correctly so they removed it and went with just the desktop version.

I haven’t heard of any plans to bring back a mobile upload tool in the near future.

@Xrave That seems like a lot for the average person to do. Hopefully they can figure out some kind of alternative.

@Bitbeard They decided not to put wifi on the device just because the data is so much that you’d have to leave your car running for such a long time to offload data in your driveway that it’s likely not feasible (and the LC uses a lot of power so not really feasible to plug it into a battery) + a lot of mobile plans have smaller data caps than home internet.

So the result is much higher rewards to try and make it worth the time for the driver.

@Yakob It is very fun to use. Everyone stares looking at it while driving. That suction thing you have is a good solution. How much did that cost you? And you have the perfect roof with the top that comes off easy to run the wires through there. Wonder does the rain creep in like that?

@JD Yea same here. My pride wants to think its my car turning heads but I know it’s the LC :P

The mount with suction cups alone was 350, All in I probably spent another 5-6 hundred on LC accessories - I went a bit overboard with it. I didn’t want to risk putting a 2.5k machine on a cheap untested mount, especially because im in Texas where speed limits are actually speed suggestions.

I can honestly say that this mounting solution is far more rigid and safer than the factory one. I can pull on the bracket with my full weight, shaking the car back and forth, and the bracket will not budge.

My roof setup is perfect for the LC. Those safety cables clip into factory-mount quick release brackets where a light bar is meant to go. I could make the LC and all its equipment disappear in under a minute.. The roof gaps are heavily weatherproofed so the 2 inches of rain we get a year here shouldn’t be an issue